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March 22nd, 2006
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The usual LOST stream-of-consciousness... Yay - a new one!

Let's see... so the prisoner gives them a map. It could lead them right into Other territory. And, even if they find it... if he's an Other, he'll have taken advantage of the balloon (possibly from another person's crash) and made sure there's a link to him there - planted or otherwise.

At some point, these people need to make a conscious decision to have a government. At what point does this happen? It may already be too late.


Oh, give me a break... out of all the people in the camp - they take CHARLIE?!?!?! ROTFLMAO!!!! I mean, I knew it as soon as we saw him listening in on the conversation, but, seriously - you know he said "Can I go?" - and they said YES??? Why?

I do think Charlie looks pretty damn adorable, especially when he smiles. But - he's the world's biggest coward! I think we've learned that by now. Charlie? Not the best choice for an expedition.

Charlie: "Humor's not his strong suit... and... *pause* I'm saying this to you..." ("Him" being Sayid... "you" being the humorless Ana Lucia... *G*)

Charlie: "You lookin' at my bum?"

Nice fake with the gun, Charlie. And... maybe you are learning a *little* something.

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From:zanne68
Date:March 23rd, 2006 03:07 am (UTC)
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Hehe...Charlie really burned her with that, didn't he?

I totally didn't see the setup coming. Never occured to me that he was setting a trap. Jack's certainly changed his mind about this guy now, though.
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:05 am (UTC)
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Well, but we still don't know if it's a setup, do we? Or did I miss something?

Oh, and I forgot to add... what is the likelihood that some guy who's afraid of being killed would taunt his captors the way this guy is playing with Jack and Locke???? He's an Other. He wants info.
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From:pohewa
Date:March 23rd, 2006 03:09 am (UTC)
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aaaaaaw....*pets Charlie*
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:06 am (UTC)
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He's so cwuuute! And a cowardly idiot... *shakes head*
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From:pohewa
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:16 am (UTC)
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cwuute and sortah sexeeeh ;-p but yeah..world's biggest coward! hahaha!
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:29 am (UTC)
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I would love to see them let him grow up a bit... *S*
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From:pohewa
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:38 am (UTC)
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yeah that's a good point actually..and it would make sense considering they're stuck on the Island of hell..
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From:aeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:32 am (UTC)
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At some point, these people need to make a conscious decision to have a government. At what point does this happen? It may already be too late.

Well, from what I remember from that anthropology degree I got almost a decade and half ago*...

Up to roughly 150 people, we can handle the relationships in our heads. Everyone really does know everyone else, whether they're really one big happy family, or need to work on conflict resolution before they get there. {chuckle, SMILE}

At about 500 people, we realize that we really don't know everyone else, and my goodness, we really do need a government to organize things. {Smile}

It's that in between place, greater than appr. 150, but less than appr. 500 where things get really touchy. You can expect a major Incident, with at least a couple of blowups and everyone choosing sides every few years. {wry smile}


*=In case you're wondering how good my memory is after that much time, my church has about 300 members, more or less, so I have had periodic reminders. {wry chuckle, half-smile}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:34 am (UTC)
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Ah, interesting!

Yet, "tribes" are often >150 people, but have designated leaders and elders. In other words, no matter how small the group, there's going to be a power struggle, and they need to handle it NOW.
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From:aeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 04:48 am (UTC)
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Oh yes. You can find even tiny groups who have a designated leader. You can find tiny groups who need major conflict resolution, too. But problems are more likely to stay fixed if the group is little, or Notably Larger. {BIG SMILE}

Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 07:36 pm (UTC)
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*L*! Now, you could make the argument that he's pretty much given up hope and figures he's going to get killed anyway, so he's "beyond fear".

But to me - he comes across as manipulative.

And, dammit, I missed the very end (loud noise outside; had to check it out) - I know he surprised L and J with the news about the map, but what else happened? (if you can remember)
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 08:48 pm (UTC)
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Right... caught he mocking them about no curiosity.

WHAT? He mentioned the possibility that it would be a trap if he was an Other himself???? Good lord - I think like Henry - *L*! Whoa. When it flashed to Anna, did it reveal anything?
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 24th, 2006 03:35 am (UTC)
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Hmmmm....!
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From:piratesorka
Date:March 23rd, 2006 08:22 am (UTC)
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I don't see Charlie as a coward. Whats he done that showed him to be a coward?
I do think this episode showed us a much edgier Charlie. He was happy to hear of Locke's and Jack's bickering. He was snarky to Ana.
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 23rd, 2006 07:34 pm (UTC)
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Sorry, gotta say he's a coward.

From the very first... where they were running away from The Monster and he gets his foot caught in a root. Jack frees him, but them he doesn't help Jack when Jack falls down - just runs like hell away. His incessant need for a gun. His failure to face up to his addiction, over and over again. His deceptions, because he's afraid to tell the truth. Basically, Charlie is ruled by fear, poor boy. I wish he could break away from it.

*G* I like snarky Charlie, too - but his humor is part of his defense too. Very interested to see where he goes here...
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From:piratesorka
Date:March 23rd, 2006 10:29 pm (UTC)
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Ahh, I see what you mean by his cowardice. I'd like to think I'd help Jack but I'd probably be spittless with fear. He is a coward about his drug abuse although lets give him a tad bit of credit for not going back to the heroin....oh and lets not forget his courage to crawl into that cave-in to save Jack.

As for wanting the gun? I think I'd want one too if I had somone try and hang me by my neck.
I see Charlie as a very flawed person, which just makes him all the more interesting. I wish Kate, with all her flaws, could be as intersting.
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 24th, 2006 03:45 am (UTC)
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Yes... his action at the cave-in and his getting off the drugs were a sign of something good... but it seems that that only happens when he has peer pressure. Come on, Charlie - grow up! *S*

I agree... he's flawed - I'd like to see the experience on the Island turn out to help him. *S*
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