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OH no!!!!! Charlie.... don't give in! - "You didn't hear about the polar bear?"
March 30th, 2005
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OH no!!!!! Charlie.... don't give in!
Spoilers for LOST...


NO!!!! Dom said Charlie would be tempted again, but I didn't think it would literally be heroin again!!!

NO!!!! dammit, what if he somehow finds out? What if Boone's not dead and he blabs, dammit????

And will Locke get his legs back? Actually, looks like he has...

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From:ninquelosse
Date:March 31st, 2005 06:10 am (UTC)
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This was the best ep in quite a while. Wow.
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 31st, 2005 01:29 pm (UTC)
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Yes... what did you think about the relationship between the flashback and what was happening?
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From:ninquelosse
Date:March 31st, 2005 03:59 pm (UTC)
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My God. We just sat on the couch gaping.
Locke's been betrayed by his family twice - multiple times if you count the foster families - is the island acting as his parent now? Or specifically a father?
There's a very father-specific theme running through the whole story - either real fathers or father-figures (or skeletal padres) showing up on the island or in flashbacks. (And then there's Rousseau, the lonely Artemis. Huh.)

Hey - don't you love Sayid's little forge/toaster repair shop setup? Sweet.
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 31st, 2005 06:46 pm (UTC)
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Yes... was the theme of the show "using people"? I mean, Locke's dad used him, Boone "used" his nanny, Locke is using Boone (or at least may feel so)...
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From:ninquelosse
Date:March 31st, 2005 07:57 pm (UTC)
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Sacrifices.

Also, we have a whole bunch of orphans/half-orphans/neglected children here. Another wondering point.
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 31st, 2005 08:16 pm (UTC)
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Oh, you mean the people on the island in general? Hmmm...

Sawyer - orphan
Locke - adopted

Hurley - still with mom
Charlie - ?
Kate - ?
Claire - ?
Sayid - ?
Boone and Shannon - I think the mom is still alive...

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From:ninquelosse
Date:March 31st, 2005 11:08 pm (UTC)
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Hurley - no dad? and grandpa just died
Charlie - big brother abandoned him
Kate - Bet'cha a Diet Pepsi that the man she 'loved and killed' was Dad - is this too far out?
Claire - where are her parents in this baby situation? And baby's dad abandoned him/her already
Sayid - Sometimes the armed forces can act in loco parentis - does he feel abandoned by his? Did someone in the army stand up for him - or not - when he chose to let the girl go?
Boone/Shannon - Mom might be alive, but never acted like a mom - hence Teresa.

I'm using orphan very loosely here. Maybe abandoned/rejected/hurt - they're all alone, each in their own way. Lost Boys (and girls).
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From:ninquelosse
Date:March 31st, 2005 11:09 pm (UTC)
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Or maybe the dissolution of families? Is there evidence of a "whole" family in the lot?
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From:rosamundeb
Date:March 31st, 2005 11:26 pm (UTC)
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Darn, you beat me to it... I was gonna say... "and lost"... *G* Since that is what J.J. Abrams said the show is about - not just literally lost but emotionally, too. Yep... and of course the boy (why can't I remember his name? Walter?) just lost his mom... and his stepdad abandoned him.
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From:fionaghal
Date:April 1st, 2005 04:44 am (UTC)
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Poor Locke! I was so feeling his pain there, what torment!
I noticed that Father Specific thing too! It IS very pervasive. Father theme is big....plus great mythological themes throughout! That's why I love it so much.

One thing I noticed is... there are many stories about a person giving up and finding hope and sacrificing in the end...a big theme in Mythology. The lonely Artemis.. did she have a child? I always wondered about that comment. Alex was her child, right? Did she give him up?

I had to laff at Sayid's new "job". Pretty handy guy!

Nu
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From:ninquelosse
Date:April 4th, 2005 01:50 am (UTC)
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In classical Greek mythology, Artemis is childless (and a huntress - the story of Actaeon might be of interest) - but in older traditions she was a mother goddess and associated with childbirth. But yeah, traditionally the virgin huntress, so I was off there. Mmmaybe.
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